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Quibbling While Iraq Burns

by cassandra05 @ 04/02/07 - 06:56:38

As Iraq descends further into a quagmire of misery exacerbated – so a large majority of Iraqis believe – by coalition troops, Times columnist, blogger, and warmonger extraordinaire Oliver Kamm continues to focus on the issue of real importance: did I quote what he’d written to me in an email without his permission?

Following our last bout of correspondence, Kamm offered this rejoinder:

I note with complacence that on your blog you carefully omit a relevant point of information, without which a casual reader will be unable to work out what's going on. Between your first and second email to me, you published my reply elsewhere on the Internet without having sought my agreement and without even troubling to tell me you'd done so. As my point was that this was underhand as well as discourteous behaviour, I'm pleased to see from the artful construction of your account that you simultaneously acknowledge the point and confirm it. I try always to respond to inquirers, but there is a necessary assumption involved in my doing so that an interlocutor will understand the conventions of civil debate. Where this proves not to be true, I can only make a mental note of it for future reference.

Oliver Kamm

Careful readers of this email will of course notice the glaring absence of one significant word: “Iraq”. By my count, that makes this evasion number three.

(On a separate point, it is indeed true that I had cited Kamm’s first reply to me on a discussion forum elsewhere online, though whether Kamm was himself aware of this or merely pre-empting my publication of his words I had no idea, which is why I didn’t mention it. Nonetheless, it remains irrelevant. In his first email, Kamm writes that “There are many weightier issues than abusing the confidentiality of private correspondence, but that truism does not … absolve you from the conventions of common courtesy.” Of course, as I argued previously, exposing the falsehoods that support a prominent public commentator’s dismal case for continued conflict in Iraq, falsehoods which are likely to receive some attention and possibly even be swallowed by other members of the public, does exactly that – assuming I had given any indication that our correspondence would remain “private” at all, which I had not.)

I decided to write back:

a) Should I consider that reply confidential?

b) Are you ready to discuss the issues yet?

Kamm replied:

You should of course treat any private communication, from anyone, as private.
That is a standard part of civilised discussion. I merely pointed to the
fact that on your blog you had carefully excised a relevant point of
information,
thereby confirming my observation about your behaviour. As you are unfamiliar
with the conventions of civilised debate, and as I am disinclined to state
them for you, you may take it that I shall not be paying you the courtesy
of responding to any further emails. (As I've requested, if you do feel the
urge to write to me in future, please remind of this exchange early in your
message.)

And that, dear reader, is evasion number four. When he gets to one million, perhaps he should receive some kind of prize? I, for one, have little doubt he’ll get there – though perhaps not before the toll of the Iraqi dead does.

One other thing ...

I have just updated a former comment on Kamm's rather extraordinary misrepresentation of Noam Chomsky, which may be of interest to readers.

The post can be reached here.

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man with no name [Visitor]

20/02/07 @ 17:20

As a working journalist writing for the national press, can I say that Kamm's point is a bit odd. By convention journalists would treat any letter as part of the public record unless it was specifically marked "confidential" or "not for publication" or"private" or whatever - he should have figured this out by now and maybe would not need to fill his mind with mental notes on naughty folk if he just marked his emails "not for publication"

darkhorse [Visitor]

20/02/07 @ 20:50

Just discovered this blog via Aaronovitch-Watch - interesting set of topics. Good to see that somebody else shares my fascination for the Kammster - I continually resist putting his blog in my bookmarks, but it might as well be. As one of Kamm's hobbies appears to be a tireless attempt to demonstrate Noam Chomsky's evil-ness by trying to identify distortions, errors or tendentious arguments with an impressively persistent pedantry, it's interesting to see somebody turn this method on Kamm himself.

Anyway, as for the current claim in dispute (or rather, that Kamm fails to attempt to dispute), Kamm is too proud to admit that his throwaway assertion was baseless, and that, as you point out, there is much support for the contrary assertion - particularly from Iraqis, who might be supposed to know what they are talking about..

Enjoyable watching him squirm though - it's a lesson to all of us what fools pride can make of us all when we confidently talk rubbish about what our political predispositions encourage us to believe.

Anyway, interesting blog, will add to my bookmarks - alongside Kamm's blog, I think!

cassandra05cassandra05 [Member]
21/02/07 @ 13:53

Thanks for both these comments. The idea that correspondence had to be specifically established as private or confidential was basically the assumption I was operating under. Nice to have this confirmed as basically standard practice though. darkhorse - I fully agree with you on this one. Also have a look at the Indecent Left blog, which should be listed in my "Writers and Blogs" column to the left.

Tim

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